The Descendants of Saer I de Quincy, circa 1100

262. Sir Thomas FORSTER [47106] (Sir Col. Thomas FORSTER Kt.²⁰, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁹, Sir Matthew FORSTER Kt.¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born on 6 Aug 1659, died in Oct 1725 at age 66, and was buried on 25 Oct 1725.

Thomas married Frances FORSTER [47125], daughter of Sir William FORSTER Kt. [47088] and Dorothy SHELBY [47124], on 27 Jan 1680 in South Bailey Durham Northunberland.

Margaret married William BACON [47152] in 1706 in Bamburgh [was Bamborough] Northumberland England.

290 M ii. General Thomas FORSTER [47140] was born in Mar 1683 in Adderstone Northumberland England, was baptised on 29 Mar 1683, died in 1738 in Boulogne Vendée Pays de la Loire France at age 55, and was buried in Bamburgh [was Bamborough] Northumberland England.

General Notes: From an [at present, 2021] unknown Source,
In 1704 Tom Forster became joint heir with his aunt, Lady Dorothy Crewe, to the Forsters' bankrupt estates in Bamburgh and Blanchland. The Forsters, once an important land-owning family, had fallen heavily into debt after years of gambling and excessive spending by Sir William and Ferdinando Forster, Dorothy's brothers. These debts were settled and the family rescued from their embarrassing predicament by Dorothy's husband, the wealthy Lord Crewe, Bishop of Durham. Despite having sworn oaths to William and Mary, and subsequently officiated at the coronation of George l, the Bishop was a known Jacobite sympathiser, having risen to favour in the Stuart Court. Tom Forster took up his father's parliamentary seat, becoming heavily involved in Jacobite politics and central to the plotting in Northumberland. He was elected as the English 'General' in the 1715 Rising because he was a Protestant, but afterwards made a scapegoat for the failed enterprise, and criticised by some of his fellow Jacobites for his poor leadership. After the surrender at Preston he was imprisoned in Newgate, escaping four days before his trial. He fled to the Continent and remained in exile for the rest of his life, steering clear of further political intrigue and holding an appointment as Steward in the royal household of James lll. After his death in 1738 at the age of fifty-four, his body was brought back to England and buried at Bamburgh.
BUT, in March 2021, Patrick de Meulmeester added the following:
For the record, General Thomas Forster participated in the Jacobite Rebellion in support of the Stuart family lost in the Battle of Preston.
He was then imprisoned in London's Newgate prison from where he managed to escape with the help of his sister Dorothy to the Vendée to join the Stuart Court.
After that Thomas Forster lost everything and it was his brother John Forster who was able to recover land and castles including the one in Bamborough.
John Forster, Thomas Forster's Brother, was a general in Queen Elizabeth's army and was also appointed Lord Warden of the Middle Marshes.

Here's what Dorothy Forster said about The Forster's and was recounted in Walter SEBANT's (1885) book 'DOROTHY FORSTER'
There are in Northumberland as many Forster's as there are Fenwick's and more. First, it had been said, but irreverently, The Lord made Adam and Eve and then He made the Forsters…
The ancient and original seat of the Forster's from time immemorial has been at Etherston, which is, being interpreted, the Adder Stone… (now Adderstone)
There are branches of the Forsters everywhere at Tuggall hall, at Aldermarston, at Bernwick, in London and I know not where else. But with those branches we have NOTHING here to do..
Especially, however, to be considered is the noble branch of Bamborough founded by Sir John FORSTER, the valiant and trusty Warden of the March under Good Queen Elizabeth for twenty-seven years and Governor of Bamborough Castle. It was to his son Sir Claudius that King James made a grant of the castle and manor of Bamborough !
By marriage, the Forsters were connected with nearly every family of gentle birth in the north: Lords Crewe, Wharton, Hilton, Ogle,the Radcliffes, Shaftoes, Swinburns, Chaytors, Herons, Selbys, Carnabys, Crasters, Ridleys, Fenwick, Salkelds, Grays of Chillingham, the Coles of Brancepeth….
One of the Forsters was Lord Chief Justice of England, another was Puisne Judge; many of them were Sheriffs, Knights of the Shire.Their history is, in a word, part and parcel of the history of Northumberland itself; that is to say of the great and glorious realm of England…
By my mother's side we came from the Bamborough Forsters - a branch of the family more distinguished in the world than the main stock, and remarkable for the gifts of politeness and love and learning.

292 M iv. William FORSTER [47142] was born in 1685 and died before 1690. (Died young)

293 F v. Dorothy FORSTER [47143] was born in 1686 and died in 1767 at age 81.

General Notes: She became the Northumbrian heroine of the 'Fifteen' when, with the help of a blacksmith friend, she cleverly engineered her brother Tom's escape from Newgate. The story, which has become entrenched in Northumbrian folklore, tells of her courageous journey to London through snow and ice, riding pillion with the blacksmith from Adderstone, near Bamburgh. After Tom's escape, and in order to outwit the authorities, she pretended that her brother had died abroad and organised that a coffin filled with sawdust should be placed in the Forster Vault at Bamburgh. 'The Lord Crewe Arms' in Blanchland is a property traditionally associated with Dorothy and her brother Tom. In Jacobite times this house belonged to their aunt, Lady Dorothy Crewe, the wife of Lord Nathaniel Crewe, Bishop of Durham.

+ 294 M vi. John FORSTER [47144] was born in 1688 and died in 1745 at age 57.

John married Elizabeth ORDE [47154] (b. 1720, d. 1789) in 1742 in Adderstone Northumberland England.

General Notes: In a Book written by Walter Beasnt, suppposedly a Novel about her Step-Daughter, Dorothy, in that Book, Dorothy is supposed to have stated that her Father's Marriage to has 2nd Wife lasted a short while, as the Wife was killed as a Result of an accidental Shooting.

295 M i. Ralph FORSTER of Carham [120467] was born on 15 Apr 1703 and died before 1735.

266. Elizabeth FORSTER [47113] (Francis FORSTER²⁰, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁹, Sir Matthew FORSTER Kt.¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹)

Elizabeth married Charles MONTAGUE [47148], son of Earl Edward MONTAGUE of Sandwich [120082].

270. John FORSTER [47117] (Francis FORSTER²⁰, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁹, Sir Matthew FORSTER Kt.¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹)

271. Thomas FORSTER [47119] (Robert FORSTER²⁰, Matthew FORSTER¹⁹, Sir Matthew FORSTER Kt.¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹).

273. Edward GREY [47045] (Margaret WEETWOOD²⁰, Barbara FORSTER¹⁹, Phillis FORSTER¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born about 1608.

Philip married Madeleine Magdalen FORSTER [47058], daughter of Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. [47018] and Mary FENWICK [47056]. Madeleine was born about 1627 and died in 1681 aged about 54. Another name for Madeleine was Magdalen.

274. Frances FORSTER [47125] (Sir William FORSTER Kt.²⁰, Nicholas FORSTER¹⁹, Elizabeth FORSTER¹⁸, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹).

Frances married Sir Thomas FORSTER [47106], son of Sir Col. Thomas FORSTER Kt. [47057] and Mary COLE [47103], on 27 Jan 1680 in South Bailey Durham Northunberland. Thomas was born on 6 Aug 1659, died in Oct 1725 at age 66, and was buried on 25 Oct 1725.

283. Rev. John FORSTER MA DD [Cambs] [46805] (John FORSTER²⁰, Rev. William FORSTER MA BD [Cambs]¹⁹, William FORSTER¹⁸, Ralph FORSTER¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born on 26 Aug 1713, was baptised on 9 Sep 1713 in St Sepulchre-without-Newgate London England, died on 12 Jul 1787 in Elton Huntingdonshire England at age 73, and was buried in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in February 2015, she included the following:-
The Rector's allotment in lieu of tithes and common rights (but excepting) Easter offerings, surplice fees, and mortuaries, and certain insignificant tithes arising from small specified tenements) amounted to about 500 acres, contained principally in two farms, called respectively the Home Farm and the Lodge Farm - the former adjoining the village, the latter at a distance from it of nearly two miles.

• Graduation: Emmanuel College, Cambridge University as a Bachelor of Arts, 1731, Cambridge Cambridgeshire England.

• Graduation: Emmanuel College, Cambridge University as a Master of Arts, 1732, Cambridge Cambridgeshire England.

• Graduation: Emmanuel College, Cambridge University as a Doctor of Divinity, 1736, Cambridge Cambridgeshire England.

John married Jane JARVICE [46806] on 22 Jun 1745 in Castor Northamptonshire. Jane died in 1792 in Elton Huntingdonshire England and was buried in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in February 2015, she included the following:-
"Another flat black marble slab on the chancel floor, within the rails, has an oval sunk recess, with the arms of Forster impaling...and bearing this legend:-
Underneath this marble stone
are deposited the remains of
Jane Forster
Relict of the late John Forster D.D.
many years rector of this Parish
She died the 2d of April 1792
Aged 78 years.

301 M i. John FORSTER [39103] was born about 1747 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, was baptised on 26 May 1747 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, and died before 1752.

General Notes: In an e-Mail dated April 02, 2010, [Mad Uncle] Hugh Drake-Brockman said:
I found this entry in a Record for the Memorials of St. Bartholomew's Church, Sydenham, Kent. (Now regarded as part of London)
138. Glass (north wall in entrance). A copy of the deed of conveyance for the parcel of land on which St Bartholomew's church was built. John FORSTER Esquire of Southend [Hall], Lewisham £238 18s, formerly part of Sydenham Common but now enclosed 8 May 1829. Adjacent to his land on the north-east and north-west sides. John died 1 Dec 1834, Southend [Southend Hall, Lewisham] and was son of Rev John FORSTER Rector of Elton, Durham and Walsoken, and he married Elizabeth d 25 Jan 1837 daughter of Rev Ralph DRAKE-BROCKMAN of Beachborough in Kent. John's grandson Major John FORSTER of Exbury House, Hampshire was father of Henry William, Lord FORSTER of Lepe, created 12 Dec 1919, MP for Bermondsey, 1892 \endash 1918 and for Bromley 1918-19, and Governor General of Australia 1920-25 who donated Forster Memorial Park in Downham to Lewisham Council in 1922. He married Rachel, daughter of 1^st Lord MONTAGU of Beaulieu, Hampshire and one daughter was the mother of Michael PITT-RIVERS and the other married the uncle of Eric LUBBOCK, Lord AVEBURY.
I thought it might be of interest to Forster People
The site can be seen in full at:-
<http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/MIsSydenham/01.htm>

AND, In a File of Information received from Marigold Potter in September 2010, she includes the following Lines:
Occupation: Lawyer of the Middle Temple
Secretary to the Commissioners of American Claims 24/6/1783 to 24/6/1785
Appointed to American Commissioners 'to inquire into the claims of American Loyalists, 1783-1785, based upon their losses and services in consequence of their attachment to the British Government'.
Ref: Guide to the Materials for American History to 1783, page 70, by Charles McLean Andrews, 1914 .
Vicar Newington Church
1790 B.A. Oriel College
Marigold also states that, referring to the Saint John the Baptist Church at Lewisham:
There is a hatchment on the west wall of the Church showing the Forster Arms impaling those of Elizabeth Drake-Brockman.

302 F ii. Jane FORSTER [94469] was born about 1748 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, was baptised on 9 May 1748 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, died on 1 Dec 1763 in Elton Huntingdonshire England aged about 15, and was buried on 6 Dec 1763 in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

303 F iii. Amey FORSTER [94470] was born about 1749 in Elton Huntingdonshire England and was baptised on 15 May 1749 in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

304 F iv. Mary FORSTER [94473] was born about 1750 in Elton Huntingdonshire England and was baptised on 14 Mar 1750 in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

+ 306 M vi. John FORSTER [94474] was born about 1752 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, was baptised on 17 Aug 1752 in Elton Huntingdonshire England, died on 1 Dec 1834 in Southend Hall Lewisham Kent England aged about 82, and was buried on 9 Dec 1834 in St Bartholomew's Sydenham Kent England.

John married Elizabeth DRAKE [39099] (b. Jul 1764, d. 25 Jan 1837) on 16 Sep 1784 in St Mary's Marylebone London England.

307 F vii. Elizabeth FORSTER [102422] was born about 1755 in Elton Huntingdonshire England and was baptised on 4 Feb 1755 in Elton Huntingdonshire England.

284. James FORSTER [47135] (John FORSTER²⁰, Rev. William FORSTER MA BD [Cambs]¹⁹, William FORSTER¹⁸, Ralph FORSTER¹⁷, Thomas FORSTER 11th Gov. of Bamborough¹⁶, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. 10th Governor of Bamborough¹⁵, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.¹⁴, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹³, Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt¹², Joan de ELMEDEN¹¹, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE¹⁰, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale⁹, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle⁸, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus⁷, Lady Elizabetha COMYN⁶, Elizabeth de QUINCY⁵, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born in Enfield Middlesex England, was baptised on 19 May 1718 in St Andrew's Enfield Middlesex England, died on 2 Jan 1781 at age 62, and was buried on 3 Jan 1781 in Stanground Peterborough Cambridgeshire England.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in February 2015, she included the following Comments on James Forster:-
Education: School Caddington Herts.
Grey's Inn

Occupation: Lawyer
Admitted as Pensioner (age 17) at Magdalen College 31/10/1735
Admitted at Grays Inn 25/10/1735
Barrister 1742
Probably Justice of Ely

Address: 1713 Snow Hill
July 1770 Purchased Hoe Place in the Manor of Woking. The property passed to his three daughters on James' death in 1781.

• Occupation: Serjeant at Law & Chief Justice, Isle of Ely Cambridgeshire England.

James married Susan STRANGE [47138], daughter of Sir John STRANGE [94433] and Susanna STRONG [94434].

288. Richard GRIFFITHS [81749] (Edward GRIFFITHS²⁰, Very Rev. Richard GRIFFITHS¹⁹, Thomas GRIFFITHS¹⁸, Capt. Edward GRIFFITHS¹⁷, Robert GRIFFITHS¹⁶, William GRIFFITHS¹⁵, Sir William GRIFFITHS¹⁴, Joan TROUTBECK¹³, Margaret STANLEY¹², Joan GOUSHILL¹¹, Elizabeth FITZALAN¹⁰, Richard FITZALAN III, 4th Earl of Arundel⁹, Richard FITZALAN II, 3rd Earl of Arundel⁸, Alice de WARENNE⁷, Joan de VERE⁶, Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford⁵, Countess Hawise de QUINCY⁴, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])³, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born in 1714 and died in 1788 at age 74.

Richard married Elizabeth GRIFFITHS [81750], daughter of Thomas GRIFFITHS [81753] and Jane FOXCROFT [81754]. Elizabeth was born in 1727 and died in 1793 at age 66.

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The Descendants of Saer I de Quincy, circa 1100

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