Third Generation  

4. Earl [1st] Sahir III de QUINCY of Winchester [81913] (Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)², Saer I¹) was born in 1155, died on 3 Nov 1219 in Palestine at age 64, and was buried in Acre, Capital of the [Christian] Kingdom of Jerusalem.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in March 2021, she stated:
Sahir's Body was subesequently brought back to England and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough.
He was a Knight in the Service of Richard de Leon during the Crusades to Palestine.
Wikipepedia gives further Information on Sahir [Saer], as follows:

As Earl of Winchester,
Following his marriage, Winchester became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.
Saer seems to have developed a close personal relationship with his cousin, Robert Fitzwalter (died 1235). In 1203, they served as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in Normandy. They surrendered the castle without a fight to Philip II of France, fatally weakening the English position in northern France.[4] Although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Winchester and Fitzwalter endured personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French.
In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211 to 1212, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the Mac William rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from Brabant lent to the campaign by John.

In Regards to the Magna Carta,
In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief authors of Magna Carta and negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of the Magna Carta.[5] De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the sealing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis's candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.

In Connection with the 5th Crusade,
When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfilment of an earlier vow. In 1219 he left to join the Fifth Crusade, then besieging Damietta.[7] While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family.

AND, finally, some History of the Family,
The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelt in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.

The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard, Matilda was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.

Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian.

Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France

Sahir married Margaret de BEAUMONT [81914], daughter of Earl [3rd] Robert de BEAUMONT of Leicester [120179] and Countess Pernel de GRANDMESNIL of Leicester [120180]. Margaret was born in 1154 and died in 1233 at age 79.

Children from this marriage were:

   5 F    i. Lora de QUINCY [120186]

Lora married William de VALOGNES Chamberlain of Scotland [120191].

   6 F    ii. Arabella de QUINCY [120187]

Arabella married Sir Richard HARCOURT [120192].

   7 M    iii. Robert de QUINCY [120189] died in 1217.

Robert married Countess [1st] Hawise [OF CHESTER] of Lincoln [120193].

+ 8 M    iv. Robert de QUINCY [120194] died in 1257.

Robert married Elen AP LLYWELYN [120195].

+ 9 M    v. Earl [2nd] Roger de QUINCY of Winchester [81911] was born in 1174 and died in 1264 at age 90.

Roger married Helen MACDONALD of Galloway [81912]. (b. 1196, d. 1245)

Roger next married Maud de BOHUN [120208].

Roger next married Eleanor de FERRERS [120251].

+ 10 F    vi. Countess Hawise de QUINCY [81980] was born in 1178 and died in 1260 at age 82.

Hawise married Hugh de VERE Earl of Oxford [81979]. (b. 1184, d. 1263)

   11 F    vii. Mary de QUINCY [120190]