The Descendants of Humphrey de Bohun, circa 1040-1113.


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78. Sir John STANLEY III [81884] (Isabel de LATHAM69, Sir Thomas Mathias de LATHAM64, Eleanor de FERRERS46, 1st Baron John de FERRERS of Chartley43, Countess Alianore de BOHUN of Derby34, Humphrey V of Herford & Essex (Earl)27, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl [2nd])19, Henry of Hereford (Earl)16, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl)12, Humphrey III of Hereford (Lord)9, Humphrey II of Trowbridge (1st Baron)5, Humphrey I1) was born in 1386 and died in 1437 at age 51.

John married Isabel HARRINGTON [81885]. Isabel was born in 1388 and died in 1410 at age 22.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 83    i. Sir Thomas STANLEY 1st Lord Stanley [81799] was born in 1405 and died in 1458 at age 53.

80. Earl [4th] James BUTLER of Ormond [120907] (Earl [3rd] James BUTLER of Ormonde73, Earl [2nd] James BUTLER of Ormonde67, Countess Eleanor de BOHUN of Ormonde55, Humphrey VII of Hereford (Earl [4th])45, Humphrey VI of Hereford (3rd Earl)36, Humphrey V of Herford & Essex (Earl)27, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl [2nd])19, Henry of Hereford (Earl)16, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl)12, Humphrey III of Hereford (Lord)9, Humphrey II of Trowbridge (1st Baron)5, Humphrey I1) was born on 23 May 1393 in Kilkenny Castle Co. Kilkenny Ireland and died on 23 Aug 1452 in Dublin Co. Dublin Ireland at age 59.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of James,
James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond (23 May 1393 \endash 23 August 1452) was the son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. He was called 'The White Earl', and was esteemed for his learning. He was the patron of the Irish literary work, 'The Book of the White Earl'. His career was marked by his long and bitter feud with the Talbot family.
James Butler was the second but eldest surviving son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond, and his first wife Anne Welles, daughter of John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles by Maude de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Baron de Ros of Helmsley.
He prevailed upon Henry V to create a King of Arms in Ireland, with the title of Ireland King of Arms (altered by Edward VI to Ulster King of Arms), and he gave lands in perpetuity to the College of Heralds, London. He was appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1405, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in 1420, 1425, and 1442. He appointed James FitzGerald, 6th Earl of Desmond as Seneschal of Imokilly in 1420.
His term as Lord Lieutenant was marked by his bitter feud with the Talbot family, headed by John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and his brother Richard, Archbishop of Dublin. The dispute reached its height in 1442 when Archbishop Talbot, supposedly acting on behalf of the Irish Parliament, presented the Privy Council with a long list of grievances against Ormond, who was accused of being old and feeble (in fact he was only fifty, which was not considered a great age even in the fifteenth century), and of having lost most of his Irish estates through negligence; there were also vague references to treason and "other crimes which could not be named".[2] The Council summoned Ormond to account for his actions: he defended himself vigorously, and made detailed counter-charges against the Archbishop. The Council took no action against him. Instead, it rebuked both sides of the dispute severely for disrupting the good governance of Ireland. The feud gradually cooled off, and friendly relations between the two families were finally established by the marriage of Ormond's daughter Elizabeth to Shrewsbury's son and heir John.
Ormond remained an influential figure in Irish politics, although his later years were troubled by fresh quarrels with the Earl of Desmond, with Giles Thorndon, the Treasurer of Ireland, with Thomas Fitzgerald, Prior of the Knights Hospitaller at Kilmainham, and with Richard Wogan, the Lord Chancellor of Ireland. Wogan, in particular, complained that he was no longer able to endure the burden of Ormond's "heavy lordship" and asked to be allowed to deputize his duties.[4] Relations between Ormond and Prior Fitzgerald became so bad that in 1444 it was seriously suggested that they settle the matter through trial by combat, but King Henry VI intervened personally to persuade them to make peace.[5]

In 1440, Ormond had a grant of the temporalities of the See of Cashel for ten years, following the death of the Archbishop of Cashel, Richard O'Hedian. He built the castles of Nenagh, Roscrea and Templemore in North County Tipperary and Tulleophelim (or Tullowphelim) in County Carlow. He gave the manor and advowson of Hickcote in Buckinghamshire to the Hospital of St Thomas of Acre in London, which was confirmed by the Parliament of England (in the third year of Henry VI) at the suit of his son.[6]

Since his father-in-law had no surviving son, Ormond, in right of his second wife Elizabeth, claimed possession of the Earldom of Kildare, and for some years he was able to keep the legitimate heir out of his inheritance.

He died in Dublin on 23 August 1452 on his return from an expedition against Connor O'Mulrian, and was buried in St. Mary's Abbey near Dublin.

James married Countess Joan BEAUCHAMP of Ormond [120913] about Aug 1413. Joan was born in 1396 and died on 5 Aug 1430 in Kilkenny Castle Co. Kilkenny Ireland at age 34.

Children from this marriage were:

   84    i. Earl [5th] James BUTLER Ormond [120917] was born on 24 Nov 1420 in kilkenny Co. Kilkenny Ireland and died on 1 May 1461 in Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland England at age 40. The cause of his death was Beheading.

General Notes: Wikipedia says,
James Butler, 5th Earl of Ormond, 1st Earl of Wiltshire KG (24 November 1420 \endash 1 May 1461) was an Anglo-Irish nobleman and soldier. Butler was a staunch Lancastrian and supporter of Queen consort Margaret of Anjou during the Wars of the Roses. He was beheaded by the victorious Yorkists following the Battle of Towton.

James married Avice STAFFORD [120918]. Avice was born in 1423 and died in 1457 at age 34.

James next married Eleanor BEAUFORT [120920]. Eleanor was born in 1430 and died in 1501 at age 71.

   85    ii. Earl [6th] John BUTLER of Ormond [120921] was born in 1422 in kilkenny Co. Kilkenny Ireland and died on 14 Dec 1476 in Palestine at age 54.

General Notes: Wilkipedia says,
John Butler, 6th Earl of Ormond was the second son of James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond, by his first wife, Joan de Beauchamp (d. 3 or 5 August 1430). He had an elder brother, James Butler, 5th Earl of Ormond, and a younger brother, Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond, as well as two sisters, Elizabeth Butler, who married John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, and Anne Butler (d. 4 January 1435), who was contracted to marry Thomas FitzGerald, 7th Earl of Desmond, although the marriage appears not to have taken place.
A supporter of the Lancastrian cause, he was present at the Battle of Towton in 1461 where his elder brother was killed. He succeeded his brother to the title, but was forced to go on the run after this heavy defeat. Taking shelter in either Cumbria or Scotland he then crossed over to Ireland where there was still considerable support for his cause in Tipperary and Kilkenny. After raising a force amongst them he was confronted by the pro-Yorkist head of the Dublin government, Thomas Fitzgerald, Earl of Desmond. The two clashed at the Battle of Piltown in 1462, which ended in a decisive Yorkist victory. Ormond's army suffered over a thousand casualties.

He was subsequently restored to the earldom by Edward IV after having been attainted for his part in the Towton. Edward IV is reported to have said that "if good breeding and liberal qualities were lost in the world, they might be all found in the Earl of Ormond". He was a complete master of the languages of Europe, and was sent as ambassador to its principal courts.

John married Reynalda O'BRIEN [120922]. Marriage status: mistress.

+ 86    iii. Earl [7th] Thomas BUTLER of Ormond [120923] was born in 1426 in kilkenny Co. Kilkenny Ireland and died on 3 Aug 1515 in London England at age 89.

82. Joan GOUSHILL [81798] (Elizabeth FITZALAN77, Elizabeth de BOHUN68, William Earl of Northampton58, Humphrey VII of Hereford (Earl [4th])45, Humphrey VI of Hereford (3rd Earl)36, Humphrey V of Herford & Essex (Earl)27, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl [2nd])19, Henry of Hereford (Earl)16, Humphrey IV of Hereford (Earl)12, Humphrey III of Hereford (Lord)9, Humphrey II of Trowbridge (1st Baron)5, Humphrey I1) was born in 1409 and died in 1449 at age 40. Another name for Joan was Joan GOWSELL.

Joan married Sir Thomas STANLEY 1st Lord Stanley [81799]. Thomas was born in 1405 and died in 1458 at age 53.

Noted events in his life were:

• He was Controller of the Household of King Henry VI in London England.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 87    i. Sir John STANLEY of Weaver & Over Alderly [122872] was born in 1425 over Alderley Cheshire England, died between 1476 and 1485 in Tower of London Middlesex England, and was buried in Clifton Cheshire England.

+ 88    ii. Margaret STANLEY [81800] was born in 1435.


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