The Descendants of Saer de Quincy, born circa 1110.


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156. Margaret STAFFORD [120410] (2nd Earl Hugh STAFFORD of Stafford123, Countess Margaret AUDLEY de Stafford82, Countess Margaret de CLARE of Cornwall & Gloucester53, 7th Earl Gilbert de CLARE of Gloucester40, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1364 and died on 9 Jun 1396 aged about 32.

Margaret married 1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland [82234]. Ralph was born in 1364 and died on 21 Oct 1425 at age 61.

(Duplicate Line. See Person 147)

157. Joan LA WARRE [49538] (Eleanor MOWBRAY126, Lord John de MOWBRAY 3rd Baron Mowbray of Axholme & Bramber87, 2nd Baron John de MOWBRAY Mowbray57, Rohese Agnes de CLARE41, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1).

Joan married Sir Thomas WEST [49539].

The child from this marriage was:

+ 199    i. Reynold WEST 6th Baron la Warre [49540] .

160. Lady Joan de MOWBRAY [120395] (Lord John de MOWBRAY 4th Baron de Axilholm127, Lord John de MOWBRAY 3rd Baron Mowbray of Axholme & Bramber87, 2nd Baron John de MOWBRAY Mowbray57, Rohese Agnes de CLARE41, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1). Another name for Joan is Lady Catherine de MOWBRAY.

Joan married Sir Thomas GREY of Heaton [120318]. Thomas was born in 1359 and died on 26 Nov 1400 at age 41.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 200    i. Maud GREY [120316] was born in 1382 and died after Aug 1451.

   201    ii. 1st Earl John GREY of Tankerville & 6th Lord Powys [120405] .

   202    iii. William GREY [120406] .

   203    iv. Henry GREY [120407] .

+ 204    v. Sir Thomas GREY of Heton [120404] was born on 30 Nov 1384 in Alnwick Northumberland England and died on 2 Aug 1415 at age 30.

161. Joan GOUSHILL [81798] (Elizabeth FITZALAN128, Richard FITZALAN III, 4th Earl of Arundel90, Richard FITZALAN II, 3rd Earl of Arundel59, Alice de WARENNE42, Joan de VERE23, Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford15, Countess Hawise de QUINCY9, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1409 and died in 1449 at age 40. Another name for Joan was Joan GOWSELL.

Joan married Sir Thomas STANLEY 1st Lord Stanley [81799]. Thomas was born in 1405 and died in 1458 at age 53.

Noted events in his life were:

• He was Controller of the Household of King Henry VI in London England.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 205    i. Sir John STANLEY of Weaver & Over Alderly [122872] was born in 1425 over Alderley Cheshire England, died between 1476 and 1485 in Tower of London Middlesex England, and was buried in Clifton Cheshire England.

+ 206    ii. Margaret STANLEY [81800] was born in 1435.

168. Sir John BEAUMONT 4th Baronet Beaumont, K.G. P.C. [120688] (Sir Henry BEAUMONT 3rd Baronet Beaumont133, Sir John BEAUMONT 2nd Baron Beaumont101, Countess Alice COMYN of Buchan60, Earl Alexander COMYN 4th of Buchan43, Earl [3rd] John COMYN of Buchan31, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1361 in Folkingham Lincolnshire England.

Noted events in his life were:

• Birth: Falkingham [or Folkingham] Castle, 1361, Folkingham Lincolnshire England.

• Appointment: Constable of Dover Castle, 1392, Dover Kent England.

• Appointment: Ambassador to France, 1395.

• Knighted: 1396.

John married Catherine de EVERINGHAM Baroness Beaumont [120689].

Children from this marriage were:

   207    i. Sir Henry BEAUMONT 5th Baronet Beaumont [120691] was born in 1380 in Folkingham Lincolnshire England.

+ 208    ii. Sir Thomas BEAUMONT Seigneur de Basqueville [120684] .

   209    iii. Richard BEAUMONT of Whitley Hall [120692] .

   210    iv. Eleanor de BEAUMONT [120693] .

   211    v. Elizabeth de BEAUMONT Baroness Botreaux [120694] .

174. Joan de ELMEDEN [46827] (Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE135, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale104, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle64, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus45, Lady Elizabetha COMYN32, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1345 in Sedgefield Durham England and died on 4 Aug 1416 at age 71. Other names for Joan were de ELMERDON and ELWERDEN.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in June 2015, she included that,
Elizabeth was "Sister & co-heir to Gilbert d' Umfreville, Earl of Kyme"

Joan married Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt.,7th Governor of Bamborough Castle [46826]. Thomas was born in 1340 in Buckton Northumberland England and died in 1392 at age 52.

General Notes: Thomas was a Companion of Harry [Hotspur] de Percy at [the battle of] Otterburn on August 05, 1388; and was severely wounded.
AND, in a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in February 2015, she stated, that Thomas was:
1384 Archer for the Scottish expedition. Commanded by John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster. The captain was Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland.
1385 Archer Commanded by Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland. The captain was Sir Thomas Ughtred 1388 Companion of Harry (Hotspur) Percy at Otterburn.
He was severely wounded in the Battle.


Children from this marriage were:

+ 212    i. Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt [46824] was born about 1366 in Adderstone Northumberland England and died in 1413 in Adderstone Northumberland England aged about 47.

+ 213    ii. William FORSTER [46847] was born about 1410 and died on 29 Mar 1461 in Towton Moor Yorkshire England aged about 51.

   214    iii. Robert FORSTER [120032] .

   215    iv. John FORSTER [120033] .

175. Sir John STANLEY III [81884] (Isabel de LATHAM140, Sir Thomas Mathias de LATHAM106, Eleanor de FERRERS65, 1st Baron John de FERRERS of Chartley46, 6th Earl Robert de FERRERS of Derby33, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Derby17, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1386 and died in 1437 at age 51.

John married Isabel HARRINGTON [81885]. Isabel was born in 1388 and died in 1410 at age 22.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 216    i. Sir Thomas STANLEY 1st Lord Stanley [81799] was born in 1405 and died in 1458 at age 53.

177. Alice de NEVILLE [120408] (1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1384.

Alice married Sir Thomas GREY of Heton [120404]. Thomas was born on 30 Nov 1384 in Alnwick Northumberland England and died on 2 Aug 1415 at age 30. The cause of his death was Execution.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in March 2021, she states that,
Sir Thomas was one of the three conspirators in the Southampton Plot against Henry V, with the further Note by,
The historian Pugh contends that "there was no plot in 1415 to assassinate Henry V and his three brothers and that heinous charge, by far the most sensational in the indictment, was fabricated to ensure that Cambridge, Gray and Scrope did not escape the death penalty as a well-deserved punishment for the various other offences that they undoubtedly had committed". T.B.Pugh; Henry V and the Southampton Plot of 1415; pub A. Sutton; 1988


Children from this marriage were:

   217    i. Ralph GREY [121866] was born on 9 Sep 1406 in Chillingham Northumberland England.

Ralph married Elizabeth FITZHUGH [121867]. Elizabeth was born in 1410 in Revensworth Yorkshire England and died in 1445 at age 35.

+ 218    ii. Elizabeth GREY [121810] .

Alice next married Gilbert LANCASTER [120416].

179. Sir John NEVILLE [120413] (1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1387 and died before May 1420.

John married Elizabeth HOLLAND [121915].

(Duplicate Line. See Person 132)

182. Sir Ralph NEVILLE of Westmoreland [120353] (1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) died on 25 Feb 1458.

Ralph married someone.

His child was:

   219    i. Anne de NEVILLE [120352] .

Ralph married Mary FERRERS [121921].

186. 5th Earl Richard NEVILLE of Salisbury [82232] (1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1399 and died in 1460 at age 61.

Richard married Lady Alice MONTACUTE 5th Countess of Salisbury [82233]. Alice was born in 1406 and died in 1462 at age 56.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 220    i. Catherine NEVIL [82222] .

   221    ii. 16th Earl Richard NEVILLE or Warwick [121933] was born in 1428 and died in 1471 at age 43.

197. Cecily NEVILLE [39434] (1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1415 and died in 1495 at age 80.

Cecily married 3rd Duke Richard PLANTAGENET Of York [39433]. Richard was born on 21 Sep 1411 and died on 30 Dec 1460 at age 49.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of Richard,
Richard of York, 3rd Duke of York (21 September 1411 \endash 30 December 1460), also named Richard Plantagenet, was a leading English magnate, a great-grandson of King Edward III through his father, and a great-great-great-grandson of the same king through his mother. He inherited vast estates and served in various offices of state in Ireland, France, and England, a country he ultimately governed as Lord Protector during the madness of King Henry VI.

His conflicts with Henry's wife, Margaret of Anjou, and other members of Henry's court, as well as his competing claim to the throne, were leading factors in the political upheaval of mid-fifteenth-century England, and a major cause of the Wars of the Roses. Richard eventually attempted to take the throne, but was dissuaded, although it was agreed that he would become king on Henry's death. But within a few weeks of securing this agreement, he died in battle. Two of his sons, Edward IV and Richard III, later ascended the throne.


Children from this marriage were:

   222    i. Anne PLANTAGENET [39430] was born on 10 Aug 1439 and died on 14 Jan 1476 at age 36.

Anne married Sir Thomas ST LEGER [39427]. Thomas was born in 1419 and died in 1483 at age 64.

+ 223    ii. King Edward IV PLANTAGENET Of England [39435] was born on 28 Apr 1442 and died on 9 Apr 1483 at age 40.

   224    iii. King Richard III PLANTAGENET Of England [39436] was born on 2 Oct 1452 and died on 22 Aug 1485 at age 32.


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