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225. Mary WEST [49544] (Reynold WEST 6th Baron la Warre199, Joan LA WARRE157, Eleanor MOWBRAY126, Lord John de MOWBRAY 3rd Baron Mowbray of Axholme & Bramber87, 2nd Baron John de MOWBRAY Mowbray57, Rohese Agnes de CLARE41, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1). Another name for Mary is Anne WEST.

Mary married Roger LEWKNOR [49545].

The child from this marriage was:

+ 240    i. Edmund LEWKNOR [49548] .

226. Lord Robert OGLE 1st Baron Ogle [120314] (Maud GREY200, Lady Joan de MOWBRAY160, Lord John de MOWBRAY 4th Baron de Axilholm127, Lord John de MOWBRAY 3rd Baron Mowbray of Axholme & Bramber87, 2nd Baron John de MOWBRAY Mowbray57, Rohese Agnes de CLARE41, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1406 and died on 1 Nov 1469 at age 63.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of Robert,
Through his Grey relations he had connections with the House of York, as his uncle Thomas Grey was executed as a result of the Southampton Plot in 1415, and his cousin, another Thomas Grey, married the earl of Cambridge's daughter; Cambridge had also suffered the same fate for his involvement in the plot against King Henry V.[1] His family came from Northumberland, where his father had been constable of Norham Castle, Sheriff of the honour, and its MP. He had died in 1436, at which point Robert Ogle (VI) entered into his inheritance.
Ogle's career as a servant of the crown began prior to his father's death. In 1434, he was a commissioner of the Truce with Scotland, and a year later appears to have been captain of Berwick Castle, which was worth circa £194 in peace time, with another £200 to be paid in time of war.[2] It was in which post he was captured by the Scots, during a border raid, and ransomed for 750 marks. As the king traditionally paid the ransoms of those captured on his service, Ogle applied for such; but the condition of the Lancastrian crown's finances at the time were such that he was still trying to get this compensation seven years later. He was later (1437\endash 38) appointed Sheriff of Northumberland.
When the political factionalism between Richard of York and the Duke of Somerset spilled over into physical violence in 1455, he supported the House of York.[1] This was probably due to the fact that he was a retainer of York's close ally Richard, Earl of Salisbury and brought a force of 600 men from the Scottish Marches to York's army at the First Battle of St Albans.[1] He was also, however, constable of the Bishopric of Durham, and, as the then-Bishop of Durham was Salisbury's brother, he probably also came with the bishop's "blessing... as his contribution to the Neville family cause."[3] With these men, one contemporary chronicler, stated, he personally 'tok the market place.'[4] His support for the Yorkists continued throughout the Wars of the Roses, and after the Battle of Towton, with Sir John Conyers he hunted the deposed king, Henry, and besieged him at Carham Castle.
He was created Baron Ogle on 26 July 1461, having been "the principal Northumbrian gentleman to support the Yorkist cause."[1] He was further placed in command of the Earl of Northumberland's forfeited castles- Alnwick, Warkworth, and Prudhoe.[1] He also received in 1438 the earl's position of Warden of the Eastern March. He continued his diplomatic work on the border, completing, in October 1461, a further year's truce with Scotland.[5] In 1465, with the elevation of Warwick's brother Montague to the earldom of Northumberland, the Percy estates that Ogle had received were transferred to Montague; Ogle was compensated with the Lordship of Redesdale and Harbottle Castle and other forfeited lands in Northumberland.[1] He was a regular, if partisan, member of the King's Bench commissions in Northumberland, being regularly appointed by the Nevilles, first Salisbury, then Warwick

Noted events in his life were:

• Appointment: High Sherrif, 1437.

• Peerage: Baron Ogle, 26 Jul 1461.

Robert married Isabella KIRKBY [120320]. Isabella was born in 1441 and died in 1477 at age 36.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 241    i. Lord Owen OGLE 2nd Baron Ogle [120300] was born about 1440 and died on 1 Sep 1486 aged about 46.

   242    ii. Isabel OGLE [120322] .

Isabel married John HERON [120325].

Isabel next married John WIDDRINGTON [120326].

   243    iii. Thomas OGLE [120323] was born about 1449.

   244    iv. Sir Robert OGLE [120324] died c10/1465.

228. Dorothy OGLE [120327] (Maud GREY200, Lady Joan de MOWBRAY160, Lord John de MOWBRAY 4th Baron de Axilholm127, Lord John de MOWBRAY 3rd Baron Mowbray of Axholme & Bramber87, 2nd Baron John de MOWBRAY Mowbray57, Rohese Agnes de CLARE41, Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester19, Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln12, Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1500.

Dorothy married Sir Thomas GREY of Horton [120329]. Thomas was born about 1500 and died on 5 Aug 1570 in Bethnal Green Middlesex England aged about 70.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 245    i. Isabel GREY [121706] was born in 1533 in Horton Northumberland England and died on 11 Jul 1582 in Chillingham Northumberland England at age 49.

229. Sir John STANLEY Kt. of Melling [122871] (Sir John STANLEY of Weaver & Over Alderly205, Joan GOUSHILL161, Elizabeth FITZALAN128, Richard FITZALAN III, 4th Earl of Arundel90, Richard FITZALAN II, 3rd Earl of Arundel59, Alice de WARENNE42, Joan de VERE23, Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford15, Countess Hawise de QUINCY9, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1450 in Weaver Cheshire England and died on 20 Nov 1508 in Melling Lancashire England aged about 58.

John married Elizabeth HARRINGTON [122870]. Elizabeth was born in 1456 in Hornby Lancashire England and died in 1515 in Melling Lancashire England at age 59.

Children from this marriage were:

   246    i. Margaret STANLEY [122874] was born about 1490 in Hornby Lancashire England and died in 1549 aged about 59.

   247    ii. Jane STANLEY [122875] was born in 1500 in Melling Lancashire England and died on 19 Aug 1587 in Lancashire England at age 87.

   248    iii. Anne STANLEY [122876] was born in 1505 in Lancaster Lancashire England.

230. Joan TROUTBECK [81780] (Margaret STANLEY206, Joan GOUSHILL161, Elizabeth FITZALAN128, Richard FITZALAN III, 4th Earl of Arundel90, Richard FITZALAN II, 3rd Earl of Arundel59, Alice de WARENNE42, Joan de VERE23, Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford15, Countess Hawise de QUINCY9, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1459.

Joan married Sir William GRIFFITHS [81779]. William died in 1482.

Noted events in his life were:

• Residence: Penrhyn Deudraeth Merioneth Wales.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 249    i. Sir William GRIFFITHS [81778] was born in 1475 and died in 1531 at age 56.

231. John BEAUMONT of Cole Orton & Godeby [120680] (Sir Thomas BEAUMONT Seigneur de Basqueville208, Sir John BEAUMONT 4th Baronet Beaumont, K.G. P.C.168, Sir Henry BEAUMONT 3rd Baronet Beaumont133, Sir John BEAUMONT 2nd Baron Beaumont101, Countess Alice COMYN of Buchan60, Earl Alexander COMYN 4th of Buchan43, Earl [3rd] John COMYN of Buchan31, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1).

John married Joan d'ARCY [120681].

Children from this marriage were:

+ 250    i. Sir John BEAUMONT of Cole Orton & Godeby [120677] was born in 1446 and died on 11 Aug 1531 at age 85.

   251    ii. George BEAUMONT of Overton Quartermarsh [120682] died in 1531.

George married Joan PAUNCEFOTE [120683].

234. Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt [46822] (Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt212, Joan de ELMEDEN174, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE135, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale104, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle64, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus45, Lady Elizabetha COMYN32, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1394 in Adderstone Northumberland England and died in 1446 aged about 52.

General Notes: In a File of Information received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in June 2011, she included the following:
Thomas and Elizabeth had 21 Sons and 1 Daughter in Total, including those listed below.
Robert fought under "The Percy Banner" at the Battle of Agincourt, October the 25th, 1415.

Thomas married Elizabeth FITZHUGH-FEATHERSTONEHALGH [46823] about 1405. Elizabeth was born about 1389 in Stanhope Hall Stanhope Durham England and died in 1487 aged about 98.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 252    i. Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt. [46819] was born in 1418 and died in 1503 in Adderstone Northumberland England at age 85.

+ 253    ii. Elizabeth FORSTER [46857] .

   254    iii. Sir Roger FORSTER Kt. [46853] was born about 1422.

General Notes: The Following INFORMATION on the Forsters and Foster comes from the "Genealogy of the Descendants of Roger Foster of Edreston, Northumberland. With Appendix", compiled by Alkman Henry's son Foster and published in London by Adam and Charles Black, 1897. It has a preface of ix pages and the body of the text runs to 181 pages including the index. There is listed information on a Generation of Forsters with XIX (19) sons of Thomas Forster b: ABT 1485 in of Etherstone, England who married Eliazbeth FEATHERSTONHAUGH b: ABT 1489 in Stanhope Hall, Durham, England. One of the Sons was Roger Forster who used the spelling FOSTER. Roger Foster m: Joan Hussey in 1540. ** This appears to be my Family line. Roger was 17 when he fled from Northumberland, as explained in a letter of Sir John Forster of Bamborough, dated 17 April 1590. This letter was written to Roger's grandson Thomas Foster of Hunsdon, afterwards Judge Sir Thomas Foster.
"COUSIN FORSTER - After righte heartie commendations unto you, ye shall understand I have received your letter wherein you desire to know or your pedigree, for that your grandfather, as ye have learned, descended out of the house of Etherstone, and to know whether he was one elder, second, or third, or fourth brother, and wherefore he fled the countrie of Northumberland, I assure you I can trowhlie [truly] satisfie you therein; for your grandfather, called Roger Foster, was my great uncle, and there were XIX brothers and he was the second brother. His father was called Thomas Forster, and his mother's name was Featherstonehaugh; his eldest son was called Thomas Forster, who was my great-grandfather; and it happened that four of the said bretheren at a hunting, and rideing homeward through a town called Newham, for the bitting of a greyhound they and a companyof Karrs fell out, and there began bloodshed and feuds which continued until there was but one Karr of the greyhound living; during which time my grandfather and yours and another brother of theirs, called Nicholas Forster - mine being twenty years old, yrs 17 years, and Nicholas, a child of 14, being a-hunting- were waited on by one of the Karrs and two of their allyance called Too and King, who sett upon the three brothers and thought well to have slain them at a place besides Branton,where there stands a crosse yet; but the said Two were slain there, and Karr fled, in somuch that after the said slaughter mygrandfather fled to Ridsdale in ye countie, because he was safe there, and yours fled into south parts, of whom I never heard of since yt time till now.... At my house near Alnwick, 17th April 1590, your loving cousin, JOHN FORSTER."

Roger married HUSSEY [94400].

   255    iv. Nicholas FORSTER [46854] was born about 1424.

   256    v. Robert FORSTER [94401] was born about 1426.

Robert married Florence OGLE [94402].

   257    vi. William FORSTER [46855] was born about 1430 in Adderstone Northumberland England.

   258    vii. FORSTER [46856] was born about 1432.

   259    viii. Rowland FORSTER [94404] died in 1524.

235. Rowland FORSTER [46849] (Sir Thomas FORSTER Kt212, Joan de ELMEDEN174, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE135, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale104, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle64, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus45, Lady Elizabetha COMYN32, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1410, died in 1497 aged about 87, and was buried in Norham Co. Durham England.

Noted events in his life were:

• Rowland FORSTER lived at Norham Northumberland England

Rowland married someone.

His children were:

   260    i. FORSTER [46858] .

   261    ii. FORSTER [46859] .

236. Thomas FORSTER [46850] (William FORSTER213, Joan de ELMEDEN174, Elizabeth d'UMFREVILLE135, Sir Thomas d'UMFREVILLE Lord of Riddesdale104, Thomas d'UMFREVILLE of Harbottle Castle64, Lord Robert d'UMFREVILLE Baron of Prudhoe & Earl of Angus45, Lady Elizabetha COMYN32, Elizabeth de QUINCY16, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1430 and died in 1473 aged about 43.

Thomas married someone.

His child was:

   262    i. Thomas FORSTER [46860] was born about 1451.

237. Lord John DARCY 5th Baron of Knayth [121807] (Elizabeth GREY218, Alice de NEVILLE177, 1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1376 and died about 1411 aged about 35.

John married Margaret GREY [121808].

The child from this marriage was:

+ 263    i. 7th Baron John DARCY of Knaith [121787] died about 1458.

238. Cecily BONVILLE [82199] (Catherine NEVIL220, 5th Earl Richard NEVILLE of Salisbury186, 1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1).

Cecily married Thomas GREY 1st Marquess of Dorset [82198]. Thomas was born in 1451 and died in 1501 at age 50.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 264    i. Lady Elizabeth GREY [82194] .

239. Lady Elizabeth PLANTAGENET [120310] (King Edward IV PLANTAGENET Of England223, Cecily NEVILLE197, 1st Earl Ralph NEVILLE of Westmorland147, 3rd Baron John de NEVILLE of Raby113, 2nd Baron Ralph de NEVILLE of Raby74, Euphemia FitzRobert de CLAVERING50, Margaret la ZOUCHE37, Helen Ela de QUINCY18, Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1464.

Elizabeth married Lord Sir Thomas LUMLEY [120309].

The child from this marriage was:

   265    i. Anne LUMLEY [120308] .

Anne married Robert OGLE [120306]. Robert was born after 1468 and died in 1513.


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