Ninth Generation  

26. Comte Englebert II de BRIENNE de Brienne [120795] (Comte Englebert I de BRIENNE de Brienne²¹, Count Eudes of Cambrai¹⁷, Count Arnoul II of Flanders¹⁶, Count Baudouin III of Flanders¹⁵, Count Arnoul I of Flanders⁷, Count Baudouin II [the Bald] of Flanders³, Countess Judith MARTEL of Flanders², Charles II [the Bald] of the Western Holy Roman Empire (Emperor)¹) was born about 935 in Brienne-le-Château Aube Champagne-Ardenne France and died about 980 in Bar-sur-Seine Seine-et-Marne France aged about 45.

Englebert married Windelmodis de SALINS [120796]. Windelmodis was born about 920 in Salins-les-Bains Jura Franche-Comté and died in 967 in Bar-sur-Seine Seine-et-Marne France aged about 47.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 35    i. Comte Englebert III de BRIENNE de Brienne [120791] was born about 980 in Brienne-le-Château Aube Champagne-Ardenne France and died in 1035 in Brienne-le-Château Aube Champagne-Ardenne France aged about 55.

   36    ii. Guy de la PIONE [120799] .

30. Comte Baudouin VI de FLANDERS de Flanders & Hainaut [120107] (Count Baudouin V de FLANDERS of Flanders²³, Count Baudouin IV of Flanders¹⁸, Count Arnoul II of Flanders¹⁶, Count Baudouin III of Flanders¹⁵, Count Arnoul I of Flanders⁷, Count Baudouin II [the Bald] of Flanders³, Countess Judith MARTEL of Flanders², Charles II [the Bald] of the Western Holy Roman Empire (Emperor)¹) was born about 1030 in Hainaut Walloon Region Belgium and died on 17 Jul 1070 in Nord-Pas-de-Calais France aged about 40.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of this Baldwin,
Baldwin VI (c. 1030 \endash 17 July 1070), also known as Baldwin the Good, was Count of Hainaut from 1051 to 1070 (as Baldwin I) and Count of Flanders from 1067 to 1070.

Baldwin was the eldest son of Baldwin V of Flanders and Adela, a daughter of King Robert II of France[1][2] and Constance of Arles.[3] His father arranged his marriage, under threat of arms, to Richilde, the widow of Herman of Mons and heir of Hainaut.[4] As Hainaut was a part of the Holy Roman Empire this enraged Emperor Henry III, who had not been consulted, causing him to wage war on the two Baldwins but was not successful.[4] Between 1050 and 1054 Count Lambert II of Lens fought alongside the Baldwins against Henry III finding that this alliance best protected his interests.[a][5]

Baldwin VI died on 17 July 1070.[1] Baldwin had constructed the church of St. Peter's of Hasnon, placed monks there and designated it as his burial place.[6] His early death left Flanders and Hainaut in the hands of his young son, Arnulf III, with Richilde as regent.[7] Arnulf III was killed at the Battle of Cassel (1071).[8] Baldwin VI's younger son, Count Baldwin II of Hainaut,[1] could not claim Flanders from Baldwin VI's brother, Robert I.

Baudouin married someone.

Baudouin married Richildis von EGISHEIM [123168]. Richildis was born about 1024 in Mons Hainaut Walloon Region Belgium and died on 15 Mar 1086 in Abbaye de Hanson aged about 62.

Children from this marriage were:

   37    i. Comte Arnulf III de FLANDERS de Flanders [123384] was born about 1055 in Ghent East Flanders Flanders Belgium and died on 22 Feb 1071 in Bavinkhove Kassel Hesse [Germany?] aged about 16.

+ 38    ii. Comte Baldwin II de FLANDERS de Hainaut [123383] was born in 1056 in Hainaut Walloon Region Belgium and died on 8 Jun 1098 in Nicaea [Iznik] Bursa Turkey at age 42.

31. Matilda of FLANDERS [35128] (Count Baudouin V de FLANDERS of Flanders²³, Count Baudouin IV of Flanders¹⁸, Count Arnoul II of Flanders¹⁶, Count Baudouin III of Flanders¹⁵, Count Arnoul I of Flanders⁷, Count Baudouin II [the Bald] of Flanders³, Countess Judith MARTEL of Flanders², Charles II [the Bald] of the Western Holy Roman Empire (Emperor)¹) was born about 1031 in Ghent East Flanders Flanders Belgium and died on 2 Nov 1083 in Caen Calvadon Normandy France aged about 52.

Matilda married King Of England William de NORMANDIE "The Conqueror" [35127] in 1050 in Angi Castle Normandy France. William was born on 14 Oct 1024 in Chateau de Falaise Normandy France, died in 1087 in Priory Of St Gervais Rouen France at age 63, and was buried on 9 Sep 1087 in Abbaye-aux-Hommes Caen Basse-Normandie France. Another name for William was William PEVERELL.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of William, along with much more,
William I[a] (c. 1028[1] \endash 9 September 1087), usually known as William the Conqueror and sometimes William the Bastard,[2][b] was the first Norman monarch of England, reigning from 1066 until his death in 1087. He was a descendant of Rollo and was Duke of Normandy from 1035 onward. By 1060, following a long struggle to establish his throne, his hold on Normandy was secure. In 1066, following the death of Edward the Confessor, William invaded England, leading an army of Normans to victory over the Anglo-Saxon forces of Harold Godwinson at the Battle of Hastings, and suppressed subsequent English revolts in what has become known as the Norman Conquest. The rest of his life was marked by struggles to consolidate his hold over England and his continental lands, and by difficulties with his eldest son, Robert Curthose.

William was the son of the unmarried Duke Robert I of Normandy and his mistress Herleva. His illegitimate status and his youth caused some difficulties for him after he succeeded his father, as did the anarchy which plagued the first years of his rule. During his childhood and adolescence, members of the Norman aristocracy battled each other, both for control of the child duke, and for their own ends. In 1047, William was able to quash a rebellion and begin to establish his authority over the duchy, a process that was not complete until about 1060. His marriage in the 1050s to Matilda of Flanders provided him with a powerful ally in the neighbouring county of Flanders. By the time of his marriage, William was able to arrange the appointment of his supporters as bishops and abbots in the Norman church. His consolidation of power allowed him to expand his horizons, and he secured control of the neighbouring county of Maine by 1062.

In the 1050s and early 1060s, William became a contender for the throne of England held by the childless Edward the Confessor, his first cousin once removed. There were other potential claimants, including the powerful English earl Harold Godwinson, whom Edward named as king on his deathbed in January 1066. Arguing that Edward had previously promised the throne to him and that Harold had sworn to support his claim, William built a large fleet and invaded England in September 1066. He decisively defeated and killed Harold at the Battle of Hastings on 14 October 1066. After further military efforts, William was crowned king on Christmas Day, 1066, in London. He made arrangements for the governance of England in early 1067 before returning to Normandy. Several unsuccessful rebellions followed, but William's hold was mostly secure on England by 1075, allowing him to spend the majority of his reign in continental Europe.

William's final years were marked by difficulties in his continental domains, troubles with his son, Robert, and threatened invasions of England by the Danes. In 1086, he ordered the compilation of the Domesday Book, a survey listing all the land-holdings in England along with their pre-Conquest and current holders. He died in September 1087 while leading a campaign in northern France, and was buried in Caen. His reign in England was marked by the construction of castles, settling a new Norman nobility on the land, and change in the composition of the English clergy. He did not try to integrate his various domains into one empire but continued to administer each part separately. His lands were divided after his death: Normandy went to Robert, and England went to his second surviving son, William Rufus.

Children from this marriage were:

   39    i. Prince Of England Robert II de NORMANDIE [35132] was born about 1053 in Normandy France, died on 10 Feb 1134 in Cardiff Glamorganshire Wales aged about 81, and was buried in St Peter's Gloucester Gloucestershire England. Another name for Robert was Robert CURTHOSE.

Robert married Sybil de CONVERSANO [88000].

   40    ii. Prince Of England Richard de NORMANDIE [35133] was born about 1054 in Normandy France and died in 1081 in New Forest Hampshire England aged about 27.

General Notes: Richard was killed by a Stag in the New Forest.

   41    iii. Adbelahide de NORMANDIE [35136] was born in 1055 in Normandy France and died in 1065 in Normandy France at age 10. Other names for Adbelahide were Adeliza and Alice.

   42    iv. Cecelia de NORMANDIE [35134] was born in 1056 in Normandy France and died on 30 Jul 1126 in Caen Calvadon Normandy France at age 70.

   43    v. King Of England William II de NORMANDIE [35135] was born in 1056 in Normandy France, died on 1 Aug 1100 in New Forest Hampshire England at age 44, and was buried on 2 Aug 1100 in Winchester Hampshire England. Another name for William was William [Rufus].

   44    vi. Princess Of England Mathilda de NORMANDIE [35137] was born in 1059 in Normandy France and died before 1112.

   45    vii. Princess of England Agatha de NORMANDIE [35141] was born in 1064 in Normandy France, died in 1079 in Caen Calvadon Normandy France at age 15, and was buried in Bayeaux Calvados Basse-Normandy France.

General Notes: Agatha was betrothed to Alfonso VI of Castille.

+ 46    viii. Princess Of England Constance de NORMANDIE [35138] was born in 1066 in Normandy France and died on 13 Aug 1090 in England at age 24.

+ 47    ix. Princess Of England Adele de NORMANDIE [35139] was born in 1067 in Normandy France, died on 8 Mar 1135 in Marsilly Aquitane France at age 68, and was buried in Caen Calvadon Normandy France.

+ 48    x. Princess Of England Gundred de NORMANDIE [35140] was born about 1063 and died on 27 May 1085 in Castle Acre Norfolk England aged about 22.

+ 49    xi. Henry I BEAUCLERC King Of England [35125] was born in Sep 1068 in Selby Yorkshire England and died on 1 Dec 1135 in Castle of Lihun Rouen France at age 67.

32. Richard FORESTER [120102] (Count Baudouin V de FLANDERS of Flanders²³, Count Baudouin IV of Flanders¹⁸, Count Arnoul II of Flanders¹⁶, Count Baudouin III of Flanders¹⁵, Count Arnoul I of Flanders⁷, Count Baudouin II [the Bald] of Flanders³, Countess Judith MARTEL of Flanders², Charles II [the Bald] of the Western Holy Roman Empire (Emperor)¹) was born in 1034 in Flanders Belgium and died in 1080 in Scotland at age 46. Another name for Richard was Richardius FOSTARIUS.

General Notes: In a Document received from Patrick de Meulemeester in March 2021, he included the following:
After participating in the Battle of Hastings in 1066 alongside William the Conqueror, Duke of Normandy, he was appointed Knight for his war Acts and became Sir Richard FORSTER, Knight and received estates in the South of Scotland namely at Etherstone (Addertsone) in Northumbria (Northumberland).
When he lived in Flanders he used the name Forestarius until he came to live in Northumberland.
Patrick's Document goes on to say:
Sir Richard FORESTER's ancestry is problematic because three versions are extant, viz:

1. Some renowned historians (Charles Cawley and Stewart Balwin) claim that he simply served as a forester in Flanders on behalf of Baudouin V of Flanders and that, accompanied by his father ?? FORESTER, he left to join William the Conqueror to take part in the Battle of Hastings in 1066 against Harold II, King of England.
As a result of his wartime events he was reportedly elevated to the rank of Knight and also received many estates in the South of Scotland at Etherstone (Adderstone) in Northumberland.

2. This version is disputed by other renowned historians and genealogists who claim that Sir Richard Forester has a much more illustrious other ancestry.
Indeed, and following research by Clifton Pierce (1855-1904), Sir Charles Oman (1860-1946) and Joseph Foster, who wrote the famous book "The Pedigree of the Forsters and Fosters of the North of England(1871)", Sir Richard Forester was the son of Baudouin V of Adelaide and Capet, Princess of France, but this would only be half accurate.
Richard Forster is in fact only the 'illegitimate' son of Baudouin V Count of Flanders and ??
In this case and after his victory against Harold II King of England, William the Conqueror-turned-King of England, would have given the castle of Etherstone-Bamborough to Baudouin V Earl of Flanders who turned it into a fortress.
This fortress was then occupied for generations by the FORRESTERS who became FORSTER.
Sir Richard Forster may well be the son of Baudouin V Earl of Flanders, but doubts remain as he is only the 'illegitimate' son of Baudouin V Earl of Flanders.

a final version confirms that Sir Thomas Forster (1385-?) is indeed the son of Robert Forster of Buckton himself descended from Roger of Buckton (1210-?) and Agnes of Vesci who is the granddaughter of Eustache of Vesci and Margaret of Scotland, the daughter that William I the Lion, King of Scotland had with Adam of Hythus, his mistress.

Richard married Maulde de GUIDON [120103].

Children from this marriage were:

+ 50    i. Sir Hugo FORESTER Kt Governor of Etherstone [120098] was born in 1071 in Bamburgh [was Bamborough] Northumberland England and died in 1121 in Bamburgh [was Bamborough] Northumberland England at age 50.

   51    ii. Ormus FORESTER [120104] .