Fourth Generation  

7. Robert de QUINCY [120189] (Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])⁴, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)³, Saer I¹) was born about 1172 in Long Buckby Northamptonshire England and died in Aug 1217 in London Middlesex England aged about 45.

Robert married Countess Hawise de MESCHINES of Lincoln [120193]. Hawise was born in 1180 in Chester Cheshire England and died on 6 Jun 1241 in Chester Cheshire England at age 61.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 12    i. Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln [122670] was born about 1208 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England and died on 30 Mar 1266 in London Middlesex England aged about 58.

8. Robert de QUINCY [120194] (Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])⁴, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)³, Saer I¹) died in 1257.

Robert married Elen ap LLEWELYN [120195].

General Notes: Elen was the Daughter of Llywelyn [the Great], a Prince of Wales.

Children from this marriage were:

   13    i. Joan de QUINCY [120257] died in 1283.

Joan married Sir Humphrey de BOHUN [120259].

+ 14    ii. Hawise de QUINCY [120258] .

9. Countess Hawise de QUINCY [81980] (Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])⁴, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)³, Saer I¹) was born in 1178 and died in 1260 at age 82.

Hawise married Hugh de VERE Earl of Oxford [81979]. Hugh was born in 1184 and died in 1263 at age 79.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 15    i. Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford [81977] was born in 1230 and died in 1296 at age 66.

11. Earl [2nd] Roger de QUINCY of Winchester [81911] (Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])⁴, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)³, Saer I¹) was born in 1196 in Winchester Hampshire England and died on 25 Apr 1264 in Brackley Northamptonshire England at age 68.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of Roger,
He married a major heiress, Helen of Galloway, the eldest of the three daughters of Alan, Lord of Galloway. On her father's death in 1234, he acquired her share of the paternal inheritance, which consisted of the hereditary office of Constable of Scotland and one-third of the lordship of Galloway. The title of Lord of Galloway, however, went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John Balliol.[4]
In 1235 the Galwegians rebelled under Gille Ruadh, not wanting their land divided, but the rebellion was suppressed by King Alexander II of Scotland. The Galwegians revolted again in 1246, following the death without children of Helen's sister Christina, first wife of William de Forz, 4th Earl of Aumale. Further unrest in 1247, possibly due to his strict rule, found de Quincy trapped in a castle, from which he escaped to obtain help from King Alexander in suppressing the rebellion. Although actively managing his lands in Scotland, despite being Constable after this time he seems to have had little further involvement in Scotland's politics and wars.[3]
In England he also steered clear of politics initially but was gradually drawn into the baronial opposition to the rule of King Henry III, He joined with other nobles in 1239 and 1246 in written remonstrances to the Pope about papal interference in English affairs. In 1258, he was elected by the barons to the twelve-member commission charged with overseeing the revised constitution of the Provisions of Oxford and was appointed also to the committee to arrange the financial aid promised to Henry. In 1259 he led a delegation to St Omer that forbade the King's brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall from returning to England unless he swore to observe the Provisions of Oxford. After this de Quincy played little part in national affairs.[3]
He died aged about 69 on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after the outbreak of civil war, and was buried at Brackley. Having no male heir, the earldom of Winchester became extinct and his estates were divided among the husbands of his three daughter

Roger married Helen MACDONALD of Galloway [81912]. Helen was born in 1196 in Carrick Ayrshire Scotland and died on 21 Nov 1245 in London Middlesex England at age 49.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 16    i. Elizabeth de QUINCY [120264] .

+ 17    ii. Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Derby [81900] was born in 1218 and died on 12 Mar 1280 at age 62.

+ 18    iii. Helen Ela de QUINCY [120263] was born about 1222 in Winchester Hampshire England and died on 20 Aug 1296 in London Middlesex England aged about 74.

Roger next married Maud de BOHUN [120208].

Roger next married Eleanor de FERRERS [120251].