The Descendants of Saer de Quincy, born circa 1110.


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12. Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Lincoln [122670] (Robert7, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1208 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England and died on 30 Mar 1266 in London Middlesex England aged about 58.

Margaret married Sir Walter MARSHALL of Pembroke [122671]. Walter was born about 1206 in Pembroke Pembrokeshire Wales and died on 24 Nov 1245 in Goodrich Hertfordshire England aged about 39.

Noted events in his life were:

• Death: at Goodrich Castle, 24 Nov 1245, Goodrich Hertfordshire England.

Margaret next married 2nd Earl John de LACY of Lincoln [122669]. John was born in 1192 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England, died on 22 Jul 1240 in Ellesmere Cheshire England at age 48, and was buried in Stanlaw Abbey Ellesmere Cheshire England.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 19    i. Countess Maud Matilda de LACY of Gloucester [122340] was born on 25 Jan 1223 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England and died on 10 Mar 1289 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England at age 66.

   20    ii. Baron Edmund de LACY of Pontefract [122672] was born in May 1227 in Halton Cheshire England, died on 21 Jun 1258 in Ellesmere Cheshire England at age 31, and was buried in Stanlaw Abbey Ellesmere Cheshire England.

   21    iii. Alice de LACY of Clifton [122673] was born about 1233 in Lincoln Lincolnshire England.

14. Hawise de QUINCY [120258] (Robert8, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1).

Hawise married Lord Baldwin WAKE of Bourne [120261].

The child from this marriage was:

   22    i. Baron [1st] John WAKE of Liddell [120262] .

15. Robert de VERE Earl of Oxford [81977] (Countess Hawise de QUINCY9, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1230 and died in 1296 at age 66.

Robert married Alica de SANFORD [81978]. Alica was born in 1231 and died in 1317 at age 86.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 23    i. Joan de VERE [81969] was born on 5 Jan 1256 in Oxford Oxfordshire England, died on 21 Nov 1293 in Lewes Sussex England at age 37, and was buried in Lewes Sussex England.

16. Elizabeth de QUINCY [120264] (Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1).

Elizabeth married Earl [2nd] Alexander COMYN of Buchan [120265]. Alexander died in 1289.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of Alexander,
was a Scoto-Norman magnate who was one of the most important figures in the 13th century Kingdom of Scotland. He was the son of William Comyn, jure uxoris Earl of Buchan, and Marjory, Countess of Buchan, the heiress of the last native Scottish Mormaer of Buchan, Fergus. He was the chief counsellor of Alexander III, King of Scots for the entire period of the king's majority and, as Scotland's leading magnate, played a key role in safeguarding the independence of the Scottish monarchy. During his long career, Alexander Comyn was Justiciar of Scotia (1258\endash 89), Constable of Scotland (1275\endash 89),[1] Sheriff of Wigtown (1263\endash 66), Sheriff of Dingwall (1264\endash 66), Ballie of Inverie (in Knoydart) and finally, Guardian of Scotland (1286\endash 89) during the first interregnum following the death of Alexander III. In 1284 he joined with other Scottish noblemen who acknowledged Margaret of Norway as the heiress to King Alexander.[2] He died sometime after 10 July 1289.


Children from this marriage were:

   24    i. Roger COMYN [120273] .

   25    ii. Lord Alexander COMYN [120274] .

Alexander married Joan de LATIMER [120281].

   26    iii. Lord William COMYN [120275] .

   27    iv. Lady Marjorie COMYN [120276] .

Marjorie married Earl [8th] Patrick DUNBAR of Dunbar [120282].

   28    v. Lady Agnes Egidia COMYN [120277] .

Agnes married Earl Malise III of Strathearn [120283].

   29    vi. Lady Elena COMYN [120279] .

Elena married Sir William de BRECHIN [120285].

   30    vii. Lady Annora COMYN [120280] .

Annora married Nicholas de SOULES [120286].

+ 31    viii. Earl [3rd] John COMYN of Buchan [120272] was born in 1242 in Scotland and died on 3 Aug 1308 in England at age 66.

+ 32    ix. Lady Elizabetha COMYN [120278] was born about 1248 in Buchan Aberdeenshire Scotland and died on 17 Feb 1328 in Prudhoe Northumberland England aged about 80.

17. Countess Margaret de QUINCY of Derby [81900] (Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born in 1218 and died on 12 Mar 1280 at age 62.

General Notes: In a Document received from Marigold [Roberts] Potter in April 2021, she names her as Eleanor.

Margaret married 5th Earl William de FERRERS of Derby [81899]. William was born about 1193 in Ferrers Derby Derbyshire England and died on 28 Mar 1254 in Evington Leicestershire England aged about 61.

General Notes: Wikipedia says of William,
In 1230 he accompanied King Henry III to France and attended Parliament in London in the same year. Like his father, he suffered from gout from youth and after the 1230s took little part in public affairs, travelling always in a litter. He was accidentally thrown from his litter into the River Great Ouse while crossing a bridge at St Neots in Huntingdonshire and, although he escaped death, never recovered from the effects of the accident. He succeeded to the title of his father in 1247, but only lived another seven years, dying on 28 March 1254.


Children from this marriage were:

+ 33    i. 6th Earl Robert de FERRERS of Derby [81907] was born in 1239 in Derby Derbyshire England and died in Apr 1279 in Holbrook Derbyshire England at age 40.

+ 34    ii. Agnes de FERRERS [81898] was born in 1246 and died in 1281 at age 35.

18. Helen Ela de QUINCY [120263] (Roger of Winchester (Earl [2nd])11, Sahir III of Winchester (Earl [1st])4, Robert Justiciar of Lothian (Sir)3, Saer I1) was born about 1222 in Winchester Hampshire England and died on 20 Aug 1296 in London Middlesex England aged about 74. Another name for Helen was Ellen de QUINCY.

Noted events in her life were:

• Death: in Sussex Square, 20 Aug 1296, London Middlesex England.

Helen married Sir Alan la ZOUCHE [120266]. Alan was born about 1203 in Ashby-de-la-Zouche Leicestershire England and died on 12 Aug 1270 in Winchester Hampshire England aged about 67.

Children from this marriage were:

   35    i. Roger la ZOUCHE [120269] .

   36    ii. Elizabeth la ZOUCHE [120473] .

+ 37    iii. Margaret la ZOUCHE [122421] was born about 1251 in Clavering Essex England and died in 1329 in Clavering Essex England aged about 78.


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